Nominations queries #3

[worldbuildingmod]

As of 2030 UTC on Sat 6th Jan, I have approved everything that I am currently able to; some recently-approved tags remain to be associated and I will do that shortly.

There are already over 100 fandoms in the tag set (last year, the final count was 233). A huge thank you to everyone who has been following the nominations guidelines carefully; this really does streamline the work required on my end a great deal, and I am genuinely very grateful for the help.

Already approved tags

Tags moving between categories

It is extremely helpful when nominators double check that their character tags are in the "Character" fields and their worldbuilding tags are in the "Relationship" fields before submitting the nomination form, as I have no way at all of seeing on the approval interface which category individual tags have been nominated in. I have just found a very small number of worldbuilding tags that the tag set thinks are "characters". My understanding is that once a tag has been created, even non-canonically, an identical tag can never exist in another category anywhere on AO3, so I have had to make some minor adjustments in moving these into the right category. Hopefully they don't change the meaning, but if there is a problem with any of them please let me know.

• "WB: A Magician's Apprenticeship (Bartimaeus)" has become "WB: Magical Apprenticeship (Bartimaeus)"
  
• "WB: History of the Czech Empire (Bartimaeus)" has become "WB: Czech Empire History (Bartimaeus)"
  
• "WB: Holistic identities (Dirk Gently TV 2016)" has become "WB: Holistic identity (Dirk Gently TV 2016)"
  
• "WB: Geography and Maps (SSSS)" has become "WB: Geography & Maps (SSSS)"
  
• "WB: The Dreamworld (SSSS)" has become "WB: Dreamworld (SSSS)"
  

Scope of approved fandoms

• Dragon Age (Video Games) and Dragon Age: Inquisition - I am assuming that the first of these implicitly includes the second, but the second is there as a separate fandom for those who want things based only on that game
  
• His Dark Materials - EDITED: by the wishes of all nominators so far, this is just the three books Northern Lights (aka The Golden Compass), The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass. (I had previously been assuming that this was a broad tag including all works in the same unimultiverse. If others do want to nominate such a tag, I would suggest "His Dark Materials & Related Fandoms" or something similar.)
  
• MCU - I will be taking this to include all the various TV shows (Netflix and AoS)
  
• Star Wars Legends - All Media Types - this is very broad - the entirety of the old EU; I would advise people offering this fandom to be sure they have looked at the requests their offered tags might match to
  

If these interpretations are not what the nominators intended, please say so!

Still awaiting approval

The lists below explain why the small number of currently outstanding nominations have not yet been approved.

Incomplete nominations

The following fandoms do not have the two default character tags of "Any or No Characters (Fandom)" and "Original Character(s) (Fandom)" nominated. Once these tags are added, they will be approved:

• Stargate SG-1
• Stargate Atlantis
• Stargate Universe

(Anyone with spare slots can add the needed tags if they want to see these fandoms in the tag set, it doesn't have to be the original nominator. This list was significantly longer when I started preparing this post, but several fandoms have been rescued from it by further nominations being made by people who did include the default tags.)

Unclear worldbuilding relevance

It is not clear to me that the tags nominated for the following fandoms are really within the scope of this exchange. After 48 hours have passed from the time of this post, these fandoms will be in danger of being rejected unless more clearly relevant tags are added, or convincing arguments presented for the inclusion of the current ones.

• Call the Midwife - currently nominated tags: 1950's, 1960's, Families of Choice, Roommates, Secret Relationships - my issue here is that this is too close to discussion of the real world to really count
  
• Leverage - currently nominated tags: Alcoholism, Aliases, Dark Past, Polyamory, Team as Family - these seem like character/relationship prompts more than worldbuilding ones
  

Additionally, there are a handful of other fandoms (iZombie and two Power Rangers fandoms) with a mixture of tags that are clearly worldbuilding and others which are more character/relationship focused. I have approved the characters and the unambiguous worldbuilding tags and left the others undecided for now. These tags will also be in danger of being rejected after 48 hours have passed, unless convincing arguments are provided for their inclusion. Alternatively, the nominator(s) can swap them for other worldbuilding tags if they wish.

Waiting to hear from nominator

• Star Wars - Movies Only - I am still not clear that "Jedi Agri Corps" is a reasonable worldbuilding tag to extrapolate from the specified canon. If I don't hear anything in the next 48 hours, I will approve the other tags and reject this particular one.
  

Mod availability

I am travelling tomorrow, so will be only spottily online at best, but I'll be back in action on Monday.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I am about to nominate His Dark Materials and I would like Book of Dusk to be a separate fandom as I'm also about to nominate Once Upon a Time in the North as a separate fandom, too. Either that, or rename it to "HDM (all works)" so it's clear anything and everything should be included, but since HP/SW/ST are broken out, there's no reason this can't be either. His Dark Materials is the name of 3-book series. Book of Dust is a separate 3-book series.

[(Anonymous)]

here's my nominations page: https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/2208/nominations/75042

One character overlaps into HDM, but everyone else is unique to OUaTitN. I did not nominate The Book of Dust, but it follows the same convention. Same with the worldbuilding prompts: 3/5 are OUaTitN specific, but 2 others could apply to HDM (and BoD) easily enough, but NOT all current HDM prompts can apply to OUaTitN.

Both OUaTitN and BoD also introduce worldbuilding and philosophies that are not found contained in any other - including fundamental ways in which Lyra's World works (the first book of BoD does this, shaking up some previously believed constraints of Lyra's World found in HDM).

I know the Archive will consider them all one HDM fandom (and the pedant in me will die), but for the structure and intent of this exchange, they really ought to be nominated and requested separately.

[hopefulnebula]

As a nominator of HDM (https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/2208/nominations/74970) I'm definitely leaning toward splitting them up (especially since I haven't actually finished BoD yet -- though I will before fics go live) and would be perfectly happy having my tags renamed for these purposes.

[worldbuildingmod]

Since all existing nominators are in agreement about the scope, that's fine; I'll add a note up top.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh shoot, should I have done mine as "HDM and Related Fandoms" instead of OUATitN? Is it too late to change it? (If it would create too much work for you, no worries!)

[worldbuildingmod]

It's fine as it is if you want to be able to request/offer something more restricted than "everything Pullman ever wrote in that multiverse". It's OK for fandoms to overlap for this exchange. (For example, see the three different Harry Potters in the tag set so far.)

But I can swap the noms currently in OUaTitN over to "HDM and Related Fandoms" if the broader meaning is in fact what you wanted. Let me know if you do.

[(Anonymous)]

Ok leave it as it is then, please, thank you!

[rivulet027]

I adjusted my nominations for both Power Rangers. R.P.M takes place in apocalyptic world where most people live in the city of Corinth, but there are still a few people attempting to surive outside of Corinth. Alphabet Soup is a government agency that took the characters Dr. K, Gem, and Gemma when they were children and raised them.

I went back and looked at the worldbuilding prompts for Leverage from last year and reused some/made changes to what I had.

I made changes to iZombie too.

Call the Midwife I changed to reflect the series/things addressed in the series instead of being very open ended. I'm feeling less sure about these and worry some might overlap.

Sorry about some of the worldbuilding tags being more relationship focused. Tend to go towards Team as Family when writing Power Rangers and that tends to spill over into other writing. I hope I've made appropriate adjustments to the tags and that they're more acceptable for this challenge now. If I need to make further adjustments please let me know. Thanks for the heads up!

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks for making the changes.

I have to admit that I'm still very much on the fence about Call the Midwife, since it is so closely based in real world events (although after doing some further research I see there is controversy about whether more recent series have deviated too far from the source material ...). Almost all of the tags seem to me to be the sort of thing that could be written about in sociological works or overviews of medical history, rather than something strictly fictional. Or, to put it another way, creators creating works based on these tags wouldn't be inventing new ideas based on the information in the canon, they'd be doing secondary research about real world events. So I'm really not sure that it counts as worldbuilding.

[rivulet027]

Oh! Sorry about that. No worries. I can pick a different fandom. Will go fix it now.

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks! (This has clarified my thinking about such fandoms, so I'm actually really grateful more widely that you put the nom in. Things like The Crown would be ruled out on similar grounds. I'm going to mention this in the next update.)

Your Leverage noms look OK now (I can still only approve a few at a time without errors, it looks like, so I haven't got to the point of ticking them off yet) except that "Past Affects A Job" feels slightly more like a plot prompt to me. I think it's the specificity of "a job", to be honest. Is there a way to have it as something like "Difficulties Caused By Encountering People Who Knew Them In The Past" or similar?

[rivulet027]

Yeah, I can change it to that. They actually bring that up in series a few time.

[rivulet027]

I traded out Call the Midwife for Legends of Tomorrow. Hope that fits the bill a little better, sorry about that. Please let me know if I need to make any more changes!