Points for participant discussion

[worldbuildingmod]

There are two fandoms that I am deliberately holding off on for now because I would ideally like the nominators to be able to discuss amongst themselves and come to a consensus, or at the very least I'd like to hear some different viewpoints to check if I've missed something obvious that should sway a decision one way or the other.

Original Work

As per the previous post, I am considering going along with the idea that some nominators have already used of splitting OW into multiple different subfandoms. No one has yet objected to this, and to be honest I am increasingly attracted to it. If anyone would really dislike it if I asked for OW noms to be split up, please speak up in the next 48 hours or that is probably the direction I will go in.

The Silmarillion - J. R. R. Tolkien

I am approving Tolkien fandoms as and when I get the chance (although it has to be said that LotR with its 43 tags made AO3 throw an error, even though I deliberately avoided approving anything else at the same time ...).

However, the five (so far) Silmarillion nominators all seem to be doing things differently, and my knowledge of it is too patchy to be certain about how to handle things. In particular:

• Piped tags or not? Some of the nominations are AO3 canonicals, which are always piped; some nominations are piped non-canonical tags (eg with disambiguations); and others still are not piped at all. I'm aware there are strong feelings about this out there; is anyone particularly attached to using the piped names and would object if I simply stripped them back to the first one listed?
  
• Relationship noms - at least one nominator seems to be nominating relationships within the character slots (e.g. there are noms for "Elrond & Elros & Maedhros & Maglor" and "Fingon/Maedhros"); I'm afraid this is not, in general, allowed for worldbuildingex. While there are occasional noms in some fandoms for groups that are always considered together in the context of their source canon, these seem from what I can tell to be relationships between distinct characters. Please let me know if there are reasons to consider them as valid noms.

Comments

[alexseanchai]

—if Original Works is split into subfandoms, then I could add two more WB things for Original Works - Post-Apocalyptic and three more for Original Works - Low Fantasy for a total of five each? as opposed to a total of five Original Works WB noms altogether?

if so then I am all for this

[worldbuildingmod]

You absolutely could -- the flip side of course is that you'd be using up more of your five fandom slots for Original Works.

[alexseanchai]

since I've only used three as it is, I don't care 😺

[narya_flame]

No strong feelings on the piped tags from me. And you're correct that those are relationship between distinct characters.

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks!

[bunn]

Also no strong feelings about piped tags, I think I didn't use them this time because Narya got in first and sent me her entry so we could avoid dupes. I haven't nominated relationships.

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks!

The relationships seem to have disappeared now, so next time Silm comes up I'll crack my knuckles and tackle it.

(ETA: ah, no, they were still lurking in there; but I've rejected them.)

[(Anonymous)]

Also no preference for piped/non-piped for Silmarillion (nominator sleepless_malice)

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks!

(For what it's worth I have no way of seeing who nominated what from the approvals screen, it's all entirely anonymous.)

[fadeaccompli]

I love the idea of an Original Works breakdown, but is there a vaguely defined list of what the breakdown is, for ease of further nominations? So that we don't have a lot of people trying to go Original Works (Sword and Sorcery) while someone else is doing Original Works (Fantasy), and what not. Just a list of what the current noms are being broken into, and suggestions for how broad/narrow future ones should be, would be helpful!

[alexseanchai]

Data point: I nominated three WB tags under Original Works - Post-Apocalyptic and two under Original Works - Low Fantasy, and I'll make it five of each if we are in fact planning to split Original Works.

[worldbuildingmod]

Good idea; I'll compile a list of the different types of OW that have been nommed so far (either as separate fandoms or as further detail in a tag under the main OW fandom) as I'm working through the tag set, and (assuming the general consensus in favour of this move continues) post that tomorrow, then leave it a further 24 hours so that people can adjust their noms to align with each other if they want.

[raiyana]

Re Silm
Non pipeds are fine, only be sure that they're not two different people named the same - we have several Curufinwë's for example...
idk who did relationships (at least four of us coordinated our noms ;) )

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks! Are there any other multiply-used names that are relatively like to come up?