Nominations - queries post #1

[worldbuildingmod]

Here are the things that have arisen in the first day-and-a-bit of sorting through the tag set.

Missing character tags

All fandoms must have the two character tags "Any or No Characters (Name of Fandom)" and "Original Character(s) (Name of Fandom)" nominated in order for them to be approved, in addition to any other characters the nominator is interested in being able to request/offer. The following fandoms currently lack them:

• Black Jewels - Anne Bishop
  
• Dragonriders of Pern - Anne McCaffrey
  
• Ever After Academy (Visual Novel)
  
• Fate/Grand Order
  
• RWBY
  
• The Elementalists (Visual Novel)
  

Disambiguations

Many tags still awaiting approval for other reasons are also missing disambiguations (the name of fandom in parentheses after the tag). I am able to add these as I approve, but it does slow me down significantly (especially if AO3 starts putting drop down menus in my way), so if nominators are able to add them on their end it would be much appreciated.

Crossovers

Crossovers are not on topic for worldbuildingex, unless the crossover exists in canon. If the crossover does exist in canon, or two canons are part of the same universe, please nominate under a fandom tag that encompasses all the relevant source material for worldbuilding that you want to be included. There are currently two worldbuilding tags that talk about crossovers (I suspect from the same nominator?):

• Star Trek - TV Shows - WB: Crossovers Between Shows Welcome
  the idea that creators might draw on more than one show is already implicit in the fandom tag; perhaps a tag like "Interactions between different crews" would achieve the desired effect?
  
• Middle-Earth - J.R.R. Tolkien - WB: Crossovers with Other Tolkien Welcome
  this one I am less clear about; "Middle-Earth" as a fandom tag already encompasses all the different Middle-Earth source material (see also the following section), but if the intention is to encourage crossovers with non-Middle-Earth works like Farmer Giles of Ham then I'm afraid that would not be on topic for worldbuildingex unless a convincing argument can be presented for shared worldbuilding.
  

Tolkien

Currently nominated Tolkien fandoms are:

• Middle-earth - J. R. R. Tolkien
  
• Middle-Earth - J.R.R. Tolkien
  
• The Book of Lost Tales - J. R. R. Tolkien
  
• The Hobbit - J. R. R. Tolkien
  
• The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien
  
• The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien
  

I am planning to approve all of these (merging the first two by making the capitalisation and spacing of the initials consistent) but I did just want to ask about the final one - so far, there are four nominators for this fandom, using slightly different disambiguations. Some tags are disambiguated as "Silmarillion" and some as "Silmarillion/HoME" - my instinct is to adjust things so that they're all to "Silmarillion/HoME" on the off-chance someone later comes along and wants to nominate just-the-Silmarillion, but I would be interested from hearing the views of nominators on this.

Specific queries

In these cases, I have approved the fandom overall but have questions about individual tags:

• The Name of the Rose - Umberto Eco - WB: Second Book of Aristotle's Poetics (Name of the Rose)
  As best I can tell, this is a real thing which is now lost and, while it clearly plays a key role in the novel, I'm not sure that this worldbuilding tag doesn't stray into requesting real world research (in this case, trying to reconstruct it), rather than fictional worldbuilding (which is the reason RPF is not on-topic for this exchange) - however, I am open to persuasion on this point. How much fictional(ised) information is given about it within the novel?
  
• Granblue Fantasy (Video Game) - WB: Astral Society (Final Fantasy XIV)
  this looks like it's probably a tag that accidentally went in under the wrong fandom, but there seem to be "Astral" things in both games so I'm wondering if it's a mistake in the disambiguation.
  

Comments

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks!

I'm not sure "Middle-Earth is a fictional backstory for the real world" is sufficient grounds to bring all Tolkien set on our Earth into the same scope in and of itself, but the other details you supply are much more persuasive.

However, I think that if that is what the nominator intends we need an even broader fandom tag rather than trying to request it from within the Middle-Earth section of the tag set, and with some worldbuilding tags that are much more specific on what sort of points the nominator is interested in exploring. I'm almost wondering whether the canonical "J. R. R. Tolkien - WORKS" would be the best (or least worse) choice in this particular instance. (Again, if that is what the nominator is angling for with that tag.)

[(Anonymous)]

There is a canonical J. R. R. Tolkien - Works and Related Fandoms tag, which could maybe be used instead?

[worldbuildingmod]

That probably is best if we do end up in that situation, thanks. (We're getting to the point where I really need to hear from that particular nominator how they actually want things handled. I'll have to dust off the "how to show me your nominations page" instructions for the next queries post ...)

[jane_ways]

I'm the nominator--I sent you a message to avoid clogging up the replies! Hope that's OK.

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks - as you've probably seen, I've replied.