Nominations Queries Post 1

[worldbuildingmod]

Tag set | Countdown to close of noms

I was hoping to get all the tags for which there weren't any queries approved before posting one of these, but between the high pace at which people are nominating (a Good Thing) and the slow pace at which AO3 is letting me approve (a Bad Thing), I haven't yet got anywhere near, and I have a sufficiently large number of queries that doing this now seems worthwhile. If your fandom is not mentioned below and has not been approved yet, thank you for your continuing patience.

(NB: I am continuing to take people's thoughts on Original Works and the Silmarillion here until around 2200 UTC on Saturday.)

Specific fandom queries

• Harry Potter Wizarding World - No Pottermore - Teacher Character(s) (HP Wizarding World - No Pottermore) - is the intent of this effectively "Original Teacher Character(s)" or "your pick of any of the canon Hogwarts teachers"? I'd need a fair bit of convincing to approve the latter over a series of tags for named characters.
  
• Oblivion (2013) - several characters are nominated as "Any [character name]" - could the nominator expand on what's intended here? (I don't know this movie, and while it seems from the tags as though I should rectify that I don't have time to do so right now.)
  
• Outcast - Rosemary Sutcliff - Centurion headed to Dacia (Outcast) - is this a particular identifiable character within the narrative, or just a type of character? (If the latter, I think an "Original" in front might be warranted.)
  

Fandoms that will not currently be approved

John Wick (Movies) has been nominated with a slate consisting entirely of canonical character and relationship tags. Please see here for details of how worldbuildingex tags are structured - it is somewhat different from most other exchanges.

The Sixth World - Rebecca Roanhorse has no worldbuilding tags nominated. Please add one or more tags (starting "WB: " and using the relationship field) for worldbuilding elements you would like to see explored in fanworks - these can be as broad or as specific as you like.

Beyond these, there are a significant number of fandoms in tag set which do not have the two "default" character tags of "Any or No Character (Fandom)" and "Original Character(s) (Fandom)" nominated. These fandoms will not be approved until these two tags are added (if you are not the original nominator, but want to see these fandoms in the tag set, feel free to nominate them using any spare fandom slots you have).

Since I cannot currently see all of the remaining tags to be approved at once, I cannot be certain that the below is a complete list, but fandoms falling into this category include:

• DC's Legends of Tomorrow (TV)
  
• The Godwhale (TJ Bass)
  
• Serial Experiments Lain
  
• Silicon Valley (TV)
  
• Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: The Next Generation AND Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
  
• Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
  
• Steven Universe (Cartoon)
  
• Veep (TV)
  

Please double check your tags!

Several of the fandoms that haven't yet been approved but are not mentioned above have missing or inconsistent disambiguations, or slight formatting variations (eg there seems to be at least one nominator using "None or Any Characters" instead of "Any or No Characters", and another prefacing worldbuilding tags with "DW: " instead of "WB: "). These are all things that I can (and eventually will) fix, but doing so slows down the rate of approvals even further - if you can assist by modifying them on your end that would be greatly appreciated.

ETA: Harry Potter

Something strange has happened to Harry Potter. I approved "Harry Potter - Books 1-7" and for some reason this seems to have brought "Harry Potter - J K Rowling" into "Already Approved Fandoms", even though it does not appear on the tag set, either the publicly visible version or the back end. I do not currently intend to approve "Harry Potter - J K Rowling" and I am now not at all certain that I would be able to do so even if I did. I do not think that this will have an impact on other Harry Potter tags nominated under other fandom names, but please be alert for possible weirdness and let me know if you spot anything.

Comments

[simplecoffee]

Oblivion nominator here! There are multiple in-universe versions of both of those characters. It's conceivable that a worldbuilder would want to come up with additional versions of them, too. :D

(...you should definitely get acquainted with the film if you feel inclined and get the time. 💛)

[worldbuildingmod]

I think the main thing that I'm looking to find out to decide about the tag is how similar the different versions to one another. Can you explain a little more? (Don't worry about spoiling me if it's necessary.)

[simplecoffee]

Yeah, I'm afraid spoilers are going to be necessary here! Highlight to read:

The film is set in 2077, sixty years post-apocalypse. Jack and Vika 49, whom we spend most of the film with, are eventually revealed to be clones of the original Jack and Vika, who died in 2017. The characters themselves did not know this; they were kept from finding out about each other by the film's villain telling them not to cross into the 'radiation zones' where they might encounter each other.

Characters who speak to Jack 49 go into some detail about how he's different from other Jacks who have come before him, and his worldview is implied to be shaped by the books, records, clothes and other artifacts he finds in the ruins of New York. It's reasonable to assume that other Jacks, who patrol vastly different territories, might find different things there and therefore have different thoughts, different worldviews, and possibly even different ways of presenting themselves.

We later meet another Jack, Jack 52, who is clearly much younger and more anxious/less jaded in general than 'our' Jack.

At the end of the film, it's implied that the planet goes back to immediately-post-apocalypse conditions, and all the Jacks and Vikas will have to come to the surface to survive instead of living in their isolated high-tech towers in the zones they were earlier confined to. It's not inconceivable that some of them might encounter each other, and that in such a situation the various differences between them would come into play.

It's less evident in the film that the Vikas differ from one another than that the Jacks do; Vika 49 and Vika 52 are shown to be very similar (and Vika 49, at least, is somewhat of an abusive partner to Jack 49, but that's another story). However, we do meet the original Vika who died in 2017, and she's a lovely nerd who's very different from the Vika clones. I think, and there is at least one person in the fandom who agrees with me, that it's possible other Vika clones whom we didn't meet onscreen could have dealt with their trauma in different and healthier ways than the ones we do meet, and that it would be interesting to explore what makes that so.

Thanks for your patience! I hope this clarifies enough. 💛

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks for the extra detail. Based on what you've said, it does seem as though they are distinct characters, so I'm leaning towards saying that the way to handle this that would be consistent with other fandoms is to have a character tag for each one that appears in the film, and then "Original Jack Clone" and "Original Vika Clone" tags as well. I'm conscious that would use rather more character slots, though - I'd be willing to add them behind the scenes to make it work in this instance. (Or if you have a helpful friend with spare slots they could add the extra ones?)

[simplecoffee]

Thank you for your understanding! I think that would work. It would be great if you could add the extra tags behind the scenes! I did already nominate Jack Harper 49, since he's the main character of the film - and I've modified my nominated 'Any [character name]' tags to make them 'Original [character name]' tags. I would rather not use the word 'clone' because it's a major spoiler, and I'm already afraid discussing it here may have ruined the film for people who might want to pick it up!

The missing canonical characters now are Jack Harper 52, Vika Olsen 52, Commander Jack Harper (the OG Jack), and Co-Pilot Victoria Olsen (the OG Vika).

[simplecoffee]

a quick update: I did indeed get a friend to help out with nominating the missing characters. I'd still strongly prefer my phrasing than the extra-spoilery one for the 'Original Jack Harper Character(s)' and 'Original Vika Olsen Character(s)' tags, though. :)

[worldbuildingmod]

"Character" over "Clone" is fine; having looked at it again, I do have a further query about "Malcolm Beech's Scavs" and "Any Scav Group", though, if you don't mind. These feel like group nominations, which aren't allowed. Can I suggest nominating "Malcolm Beech" as a specific character, and then adding one or more worldbuilding tags about Scav Groups?

[simplecoffee]

Thank you! Missing the rule about group nominations is on me, my apologies. I've amended my nominations to 'Malcolm Beech' and 'Original Scav Character(s)', if that's okay!

[isis]

Not the nominator, but I know the book, and "Centurion headed to Dacia (Outcast)" refers to a specific character, who has no name given in the text.

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks, very helpful!

[alexseanchai]

Question: It looks like Zuko was nominated under Avatar: the Last Airbender. He's also showing up under Avatar: Legend of Korra—is this nominatorly (or modly) intent?

[worldbuildingmod]

No, it's good old AO3 tag migration ... Thanks for flagging it up, I'll add it to the list to deal with once noms are closed.

[rivulet027]

I think I fixed my DC's Legends of Tomorrow nom.

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks! I can see the "Any or No ..." and "Original ..." tags are in there now, but if you could also add disambiguations to the other tags, that would be really helpful. (Especially because on past experience, LoT tags will start to wonder if there are any other DC TV shows in the tag set.)

Outcast - Rosemary Sutcliff

[greerwatson]

Not the person who nominated but the character "Centurion headed to Dacia (Outcast)" is an identifiable character from chapter 5 of the novel.

Re: Outcast - Rosemary Sutcliff

[worldbuildingmod]

Thanks; I'll approve this next time I see it go by.